
In this eye-opening interview, James Templeton sits down with integrative cancer physician Dr. Kathy Goldsworthy to explore a radically different way of thinking about cancer treatment—one that focuses on outsmarting cancer rather than simply attacking it.
Dr. Goldsworthy explains what she calls a “Trojan Horse” approach—methods designed to trick cancer cells into exposing themselves, weakening their defenses, and making them more vulnerable to treatment. She also breaks down nagalase testing, a powerful and often overlooked blood marker that can help monitor cancer activity—sometimes reducing the need for repeated CT scans.
Throughout the conversation, Dr. Goldsworthy walks through many of the therapies she uses in her practice, including ozone therapy, infrared saunas, red light therapy, high-dose vitamin C, hydrogen peroxide IVs, DMSO, vitamin B-17, mistletoe therapy, and even therapeutic fever baths.
If you or someone you love is questioning conventional cancer treatments—or simply wants to better understand the full range of integrative options available—this interview offers clarity, hope, and a fresh perspective on what healing can look like.
00:00 – Introduction & Guest Overview
James Templeton introduces integrative cancer physician Dr. Kathy Goldsworthy and frames the discussion around alternative ways of thinking about cancer treatment.
02:10 – Dr. Goldsworthy’s Medical Background & Philosophy
Dr. Goldsworthy shares her clinical background and how her approach to cancer care evolved beyond conventional oncology.
06:45 – Limitations of the Conventional Cancer Model
Why standard “seek and destroy” cancer strategies often fall short and fail to address root causes.
08:10 – Chemotherapy, Radiation & Systemic Damage
Discussion on how traditional treatments impact healthy tissue, immunity, and long-term recovery.
09:05 – The Immune System’s Role in Cancer Progression
How immune suppression and dysfunction influence cancer growth and treatment outcomes.
14:40 – Rethinking Cancer as a Metabolic Disease
Why cancer should be viewed through a metabolic and systems-based lens rather than a purely genetic one.
16:15 – The ‘Trojan Horse’ Approach Explained
Dr. Goldsworthy outlines the Trojan Horse strategy—outsmarting cancer by exploiting its metabolic weaknesses instead of attacking it directly.
20:00 – Inflammation, Terrain & Cellular Environment
How inflammation, toxicity, and cellular terrain create conditions that allow cancer to thrive.
27:30 – Supporting the Body While Targeting Cancer
Why strengthening the body’s systems is just as important as addressing the tumor itself.
39:15 – Metabolic Therapies & Integrative Strategies
A deeper look at metabolic interventions and how they can complement or replace aggressive treatments.
55:45 – Patient Empowerment & Individualized Care
Why informed patients and personalized protocols lead to better long-term outcomes.
1:05:30 – Final Thoughts on Hope, Strategy & Healing
Closing reflections on changing the cancer narrative from fear and force to intelligence and resilience.
To find out more about the work of Dr. Kathy Goldsworthy and Reno Integrative Health & Wellness, check out: https://
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